Eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich does not make you a better Christian

People get mad. They boycott. However ugly we think that is, it is really the “cost” of free speech. However, the biggest danger to us all is when liberty and free speech is coerced by people in office–when the government uses its influence to exact a penalty. When the chatter over choosing a side is left aside for a moment, the constitution and the officers charged with protecting it are on the side of liberty. When the guardians of freedom begin to use their power to deafen voices, we ALL lose. This is called fascism, by the way. And, its a bad thing.

A CEO accidentally gives a wrong impression about Christians. Dan Cathy, who had a right to say all the things he has said including giving of millions to *allegedly defeat gay rights may have messed up. What charity does he give with his fortunes? What other things does he give this much money to? He may do so much good, but the public does not know. All we know about him is that he is anti-gay rights. And, any of us who are Christian who agree with his biblical view of the traditional family may not agree with his philosophy on how to live that out in the real world. This means, as a leader he may have failed to give a clear view of Christianity by using a company platform to express his views in this way. If you become used as a political rallying point, that is not a good thing. The full picture of who Dan Cathy may truly be is dwarfed by politics and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.

Liberty is a good thing. And, differing world views exist. Personally, I think me and my fellow Christians do a terrible job of being duped into taking the red meat. Christians on the Left and Right are drawn into battle lines, even against each other. It is more in the interest of donations to political action committees and the media that gets rich off of them than to your faith. You heard that, I hope. Going to eat a Chick-fil-A sandwich today does not make you a better Christian. And, for some of you on the other side of this, boycotting the place will not as well.

Go ahead and join the tit-for-tat boycott culture. That is nothing new. It is drama for the news agencies, and is your right. It may make you feel better about yourself. Here is something painfully true for some of us. The Evangelical church has not been fully able to shed the “fighting fundamentalist” culture. We need something to be against, apparently. But, what are we really fighting for? Is it liberty over fascism? Is it our own marriages? Is it the poor? Is it the orphan? Unfortunately for some, eating or not eating a sandwich today means more than it should.

PS. I do love this…

*Based on the  cited article (which many media outlets are using) it looks like to me only a few thousand dollars could be characterized as being explicitly “anti-gay” rights while the majority of philanthropy is for charity and religious purposes. However, I am still investigating the allegation and please note my correction and investigate on your own as well.

**UPDATE 2: Also, I in no way am BLAMING Dan Cathy for how people are using him and his company to POLITICALLY rally others. Mike Huckabee is the one making this out to be more than it should be. The only blame Cathy should take is in the realm of representing FAITH through his role in a company. Recently, he actually agreed and they are staying as a company out of this.

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Rich Kirkpatrick

Writer, Speaker, and Musician. Rich Kirkpatrick was recently rated #13 of the “Top 75 Religion Bloggers” by Newsmax.com, having also received recognition by Worship Leader Magazine as “Editor’s Choice” for the “Best of the Best” of blogs in 2011, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

184 comments

  1. You’re right, eating at Chick-fil A does not make you a better Christian. But you might be a bit hard on Dan Cathy. I don’t know him or much about him. But he has a right to express his beliefs and live his Christianity as he feels God is leading. Only God knows his heart. He is living in a fishbowl and I think if any one of us were also living in a fish bowl, people would be finding fault with us too.

    1. Janis, we all have choices. And, rights are rights. What I said here is that there is a message being sent that is unhelpful and literal, regardless of heart motives. I know what a fish bowl is like and I have met him at a couple conferences. I would like to see more than this one issue not be the definition of Christianity. We have liberty to do many things, and we should all support Cathy as I do in that realm, But, that does not mean the message being sent is helpful.

    2. Janis, I agree he has a right to share his beliefs. But that’s not what he did. He responded that CHIC-FIL-A as a company was against gay marriage. Big difference I think.

  2. You’re right, eating at Chick-fil A does not make you a better Christian. But you might be a bit hard on Dan Cathy. I don’t know him or much about him. But he has a right to express his beliefs and live his Christianity as he feels God is leading. Only God knows his heart. He is living in a fishbowl and I think if any one of us were also living in a fish bowl, people would be finding fault with us too.

    1. Janis, we all have choices. And, rights are rights. What I said here is that there is a message being sent that is unhelpful and literal, regardless of heart motives. I know what a fish bowl is like and I have met him at a couple conferences. I would like to see more than this one issue not be the definition of Christianity. We have liberty to do many things, and we should all support Cathy as I do in that realm, But, that does not mean the message being sent is helpful.

    2. Janis, I agree he has a right to share his beliefs. But that’s not what he did. He responded that CHIC-FIL-A as a company was against gay marriage. Big difference I think.

  3. You’re right, eating at Chick-fil A does not make you a better Christian. But you might be a bit hard on Dan Cathy. I don’t know him or much about him. But he has a right to express his beliefs and live his Christianity as he feels God is leading. Only God knows his heart. He is living in a fishbowl and I think if any one of us were also living in a fish bowl, people would be finding fault with us too.

    1. Janis, we all have choices. And, rights are rights. What I said here is that there is a message being sent that is unhelpful and literal, regardless of heart motives. I know what a fish bowl is like and I have met him at a couple conferences. I would like to see more than this one issue not be the definition of Christianity. We have liberty to do many things, and we should all support Cathy as I do in that realm, But, that does not mean the message being sent is helpful.

    2. Janis, I agree he has a right to share his beliefs. But that’s not what he did. He responded that CHIC-FIL-A as a company was against gay marriage. Big difference I think.

  4. You’re right, eating at Chick-fil A does not make you a better Christian. But you might be a bit hard on Dan Cathy. I don’t know him or much about him. But he has a right to express his beliefs and live his Christianity as he feels God is leading. Only God knows his heart. He is living in a fishbowl and I think if any one of us were also living in a fish bowl, people would be finding fault with us too.

    1. Janis, we all have choices. And, rights are rights. What I said here is that there is a message being sent that is unhelpful and literal, regardless of heart motives. I know what a fish bowl is like and I have met him at a couple conferences. I would like to see more than this one issue not be the definition of Christianity. We have liberty to do many things, and we should all support Cathy as I do in that realm, But, that does not mean the message being sent is helpful.

    2. Janis, I agree he has a right to share his beliefs. But that’s not what he did. He responded that CHIC-FIL-A as a company was against gay marriage. Big difference I think.

  5. You’re right, eating at Chick-fil A does not make you a better Christian. But you might be a bit hard on Dan Cathy. I don’t know him or much about him. But he has a right to express his beliefs and live his Christianity as he feels God is leading. Only God knows his heart. He is living in a fishbowl and I think if any one of us were also living in a fish bowl, people would be finding fault with us too.

    1. Janis, we all have choices. And, rights are rights. What I said here is that there is a message being sent that is unhelpful and literal, regardless of heart motives. I know what a fish bowl is like and I have met him at a couple conferences. I would like to see more than this one issue not be the definition of Christianity. We have liberty to do many things, and we should all support Cathy as I do in that realm, But, that does not mean the message being sent is helpful.

    2. Janis, I agree he has a right to share his beliefs. But that’s not what he did. He responded that CHIC-FIL-A as a company was against gay marriage. Big difference I think.

  6. I really couldn’t disagree with you more. I just have to bite my tongue I get so dang frustrated by all this junk. The guy said this is what I believe, and as a company, it’s what we believe. Then, they went on to say how they value every customers, and respect them, and would never discriminate against them in hiring or serving, and they treat all the customers with dignity and respect.
    To really think Dan Cathy wanted to stand up and make a scene, ‘cmon? They’ve been baiting him for YEARS. TRYING to make a scene.

    I’m disgusted with the INABILITY of the church to stand for TRUTH and take a stand on ANYTHING without being called bashers, bigots, etc.

    The world (and sadly, the much of the younger millenial view) seems to think that the only way to show Christian love is to tolerate everything and just live your faith personally and not try to impact culture. That’s ludicrous and it’s not the faith I have.

    My choice to wait in line and eat today does’t make me ANTI-ANYTHING. It just is a way of my saying “thanks” for sticking to your convictions. It’s a way to possibly offset a BOYCOTT that was INITIATED by the very people who INTENTIONALLY created the drama in the first place.

    Dangit, dangit, dangit, I insisted I was gonna just stay out of this nonsense. Here I am. we can always count on you to stir the pot, Rich.

    1. ha… I told myself the same thing about staying out of it. I haven’t posted ANYTHING on facebook of liked anything….until now.

    2. Fred, I am glad you are stirred!

      Do we want to define our faith by what we are against? Are politics really the answer, or is living out our own marriages a better choice? Seriously, we choose a wedge like this and this is why it gets in the news (my other post explained the picking sides issue).

      Standing up is good. Being wise about what is being “heard” is also good. Of course, I agree with Cathy and like him and like chicken. A lot. But, I am not sure spending millions on politics against a group is really something that as a front face I would not do.

      1. Rich,Who says that by taking a stand for something you believe in (to use your phrase, “being known for something we are against”) is the ONLY voice of Dan Cathy and Chick-Fila? That’s nonsense. It’s ONE voice. How about giving to missions. How about giving to the poor. How about scholarships for kids. How about the fact that they HAVE been faithful in their own marriages. How about serving faithfully in their home churches. How about all the free food donated.

        That’s what **** me off. Nobody wants to talk about that. Then, you take a stand on one issue, and all of a sudden, “Christians are only known for what they are against”. This is stupid. It’s a line that has been spouted by people so much that Christians say “oh my, that’s terrible, we have to change” and forget that we, as Christ followers, do SO MUCH GOOD that is ignored. Dang I’m so tired of this nonsense.

        1. Spending millions in the political arena is gonna make it hard for Cathy to overcome that as his primary point of context to the general public. That is a fact, not the whole story of who he is, however. Also, couple that with the general boycott nature and political baiting of Christians and the message being sent to the public is what it is.

          You may feel differently, but communicators need to own the result of their message as well. Granted, all the forces are in place. But, some of those are par for the course. So, people are not ignoring the good. It is just the sum of it when we push power and politics into the mix.

          Getting pissed off is really our problem–all of ours. We do not think enough and discuss enough these issues that are far more complex than a chicken sandwich. My last post explained how I think we have been duped into all of this. I think it is proper to ask the question about how we come across. This is not a biblical compromise, but for the sake of the gospel.

          On another note, no motives are being challenged here. Just tactics.

  7. I really couldn’t disagree with you more. I just have to bite my tongue I get so dang frustrated by all this junk. The guy said this is what I believe, and as a company, it’s what we believe. Then, they went on to say how they value every customers, and respect them, and would never discriminate against them in hiring or serving, and they treat all the customers with dignity and respect.
    To really think Dan Cathy wanted to stand up and make a scene, ‘cmon? They’ve been baiting him for YEARS. TRYING to make a scene.
    I’m disgusted with the INABILITY of the church to stand for TRUTH and take a stand on ANYTHING without being called bashers, bigots, etc.
    The world (and sadly, the much of the younger millenial view) seems to think that the only way to show Christian love is to tolerate everything and just live your faith personally and not try to impact culture. That’s ludicrous and it’s not the faith I have.
    My choice to wait in line and eat today does’t make me ANTI-ANYTHING. It just is a way of my saying “thanks” for sticking to your convictions. It’s a way to possibly offset a BOYCOTT that was INITIATED by the very people who INTENTIONALLY created the drama in the first place.
    Dangit, dangit, dangit, I insisted I was gonna just stay out of this nonsense. Here I am. we can always count on you to stir the pot, Rich.

    1. ha… I told myself the same thing about staying out of it. I haven’t posted ANYTHING on facebook of liked anything….until now.

    2. Fred, I am glad you are stirred!
      Do we want to define our faith by what we are against? Are politics really the answer, or is living out our own marriages a better choice? Seriously, we choose a wedge like this and this is why it gets in the news (my other post explained the picking sides issue).
      Standing up is good. Being wise about what is being “heard” is also good. Of course, I agree with Cathy and like him and like chicken. A lot. But, I am not sure spending millions on politics against a group is really something that as a front face I would not do.

  8. I really couldn’t disagree with you more. I just have to bite my tongue I get so dang frustrated by all this junk. The guy said this is what I believe, and as a company, it’s what we believe. Then, they went on to say how they value every customers, and respect them, and would never discriminate against them in hiring or serving, and they treat all the customers with dignity and respect.
    To really think Dan Cathy wanted to stand up and make a scene, ‘cmon? They’ve been baiting him for YEARS. TRYING to make a scene.

    I’m disgusted with the INABILITY of the church to stand for TRUTH and take a stand on ANYTHING without being called bashers, bigots, etc.

    The world (and sadly, the much of the younger millenial view) seems to think that the only way to show Christian love is to tolerate everything and just live your faith personally and not try to impact culture. That’s ludicrous and it’s not the faith I have.

    My choice to wait in line and eat today does’t make me ANTI-ANYTHING. It just is a way of my saying “thanks” for sticking to your convictions. It’s a way to possibly offset a BOYCOTT that was INITIATED by the very people who INTENTIONALLY created the drama in the first place.

    Dangit, dangit, dangit, I insisted I was gonna just stay out of this nonsense. Here I am. we can always count on you to stir the pot, Rich.

    1. ha… I told myself the same thing about staying out of it. I haven’t posted ANYTHING on facebook of liked anything….until now.

    2. Fred, I am glad you are stirred!

      Do we want to define our faith by what we are against? Are politics really the answer, or is living out our own marriages a better choice? Seriously, we choose a wedge like this and this is why it gets in the news (my other post explained the picking sides issue).

      Standing up is good. Being wise about what is being “heard” is also good. Of course, I agree with Cathy and like him and like chicken. A lot. But, I am not sure spending millions on politics against a group is really something that as a front face I would not do.

      1. Rich,Who says that by taking a stand for something you believe in (to use your phrase, “being known for something we are against”) is the ONLY voice of Dan Cathy and Chick-Fila? That’s nonsense. It’s ONE voice. How about giving to missions. How about giving to the poor. How about scholarships for kids. How about the fact that they HAVE been faithful in their own marriages. How about serving faithfully in their home churches. How about all the free food donated.

        That’s what **** me off. Nobody wants to talk about that. Then, you take a stand on one issue, and all of a sudden, “Christians are only known for what they are against”. This is stupid. It’s a line that has been spouted by people so much that Christians say “oh my, that’s terrible, we have to change” and forget that we, as Christ followers, do SO MUCH GOOD that is ignored. Dang I’m so tired of this nonsense.

        1. Spending millions in the political arena is gonna make it hard for Cathy to overcome that as his primary point of context to the general public. That is a fact, not the whole story of who he is, however. Also, couple that with the general boycott nature and political baiting of Christians and the message being sent to the public is what it is.

          You may feel differently, but communicators need to own the result of their message as well. Granted, all the forces are in place. But, some of those are par for the course. So, people are not ignoring the good. It is just the sum of it when we push power and politics into the mix.

          Getting pissed off is really our problem–all of ours. We do not think enough and discuss enough these issues that are far more complex than a chicken sandwich. My last post explained how I think we have been duped into all of this. I think it is proper to ask the question about how we come across. This is not a biblical compromise, but for the sake of the gospel.

          On another note, no motives are being challenged here. Just tactics.

  9. I really couldn’t disagree with you more. I just have to bite my tongue I get so dang frustrated by all this junk. The guy said this is what I believe, and as a company, it’s what we believe. Then, they went on to say how they value every customers, and respect them, and would never discriminate against them in hiring or serving, and they treat all the customers with dignity and respect.
    To really think Dan Cathy wanted to stand up and make a scene, ‘cmon? They’ve been baiting him for YEARS. TRYING to make a scene.

    I’m disgusted with the INABILITY of the church to stand for TRUTH and take a stand on ANYTHING without being called bashers, bigots, etc.

    The world (and sadly, the much of the younger millenial view) seems to think that the only way to show Christian love is to tolerate everything and just live your faith personally and not try to impact culture. That’s ludicrous and it’s not the faith I have.

    My choice to wait in line and eat today does’t make me ANTI-ANYTHING. It just is a way of my saying “thanks” for sticking to your convictions. It’s a way to possibly offset a BOYCOTT that was INITIATED by the very people who INTENTIONALLY created the drama in the first place.

    Dangit, dangit, dangit, I insisted I was gonna just stay out of this nonsense. Here I am. we can always count on you to stir the pot, Rich.

    1. ha… I told myself the same thing about staying out of it. I haven’t posted ANYTHING on facebook of liked anything….until now.

    2. Fred, I am glad you are stirred!

      Do we want to define our faith by what we are against? Are politics really the answer, or is living out our own marriages a better choice? Seriously, we choose a wedge like this and this is why it gets in the news (my other post explained the picking sides issue).

      Standing up is good. Being wise about what is being “heard” is also good. Of course, I agree with Cathy and like him and like chicken. A lot. But, I am not sure spending millions on politics against a group is really something that as a front face I would not do.

      1. Rich,Who says that by taking a stand for something you believe in (to use your phrase, “being known for something we are against”) is the ONLY voice of Dan Cathy and Chick-Fila? That’s nonsense. It’s ONE voice. How about giving to missions. How about giving to the poor. How about scholarships for kids. How about the fact that they HAVE been faithful in their own marriages. How about serving faithfully in their home churches. How about all the free food donated.

        That’s what **** me off. Nobody wants to talk about that. Then, you take a stand on one issue, and all of a sudden, “Christians are only known for what they are against”. This is stupid. It’s a line that has been spouted by people so much that Christians say “oh my, that’s terrible, we have to change” and forget that we, as Christ followers, do SO MUCH GOOD that is ignored. Dang I’m so tired of this nonsense.

        1. Spending millions in the political arena is gonna make it hard for Cathy to overcome that as his primary point of context to the general public. That is a fact, not the whole story of who he is, however. Also, couple that with the general boycott nature and political baiting of Christians and the message being sent to the public is what it is.

          You may feel differently, but communicators need to own the result of their message as well. Granted, all the forces are in place. But, some of those are par for the course. So, people are not ignoring the good. It is just the sum of it when we push power and politics into the mix.

          Getting pissed off is really our problem–all of ours. We do not think enough and discuss enough these issues that are far more complex than a chicken sandwich. My last post explained how I think we have been duped into all of this. I think it is proper to ask the question about how we come across. This is not a biblical compromise, but for the sake of the gospel.

          On another note, no motives are being challenged here. Just tactics.

  10. I really couldn’t disagree with you more. I just have to bite my tongue I get so dang frustrated by all this junk. The guy said this is what I believe, and as a company, it’s what we believe. Then, they went on to say how they value every customers, and respect them, and would never discriminate against them in hiring or serving, and they treat all the customers with dignity and respect.
    To really think Dan Cathy wanted to stand up and make a scene, ‘cmon? They’ve been baiting him for YEARS. TRYING to make a scene.

    I’m disgusted with the INABILITY of the church to stand for TRUTH and take a stand on ANYTHING without being called bashers, bigots, etc.

    The world (and sadly, the much of the younger millenial view) seems to think that the only way to show Christian love is to tolerate everything and just live your faith personally and not try to impact culture. That’s ludicrous and it’s not the faith I have.

    My choice to wait in line and eat today does’t make me ANTI-ANYTHING. It just is a way of my saying “thanks” for sticking to your convictions. It’s a way to possibly offset a BOYCOTT that was INITIATED by the very people who INTENTIONALLY created the drama in the first place.

    Dangit, dangit, dangit, I insisted I was gonna just stay out of this nonsense. Here I am. we can always count on you to stir the pot, Rich.

    1. ha… I told myself the same thing about staying out of it. I haven’t posted ANYTHING on facebook of liked anything….until now.

    2. Fred, I am glad you are stirred!

      Do we want to define our faith by what we are against? Are politics really the answer, or is living out our own marriages a better choice? Seriously, we choose a wedge like this and this is why it gets in the news (my other post explained the picking sides issue).

      Standing up is good. Being wise about what is being “heard” is also good. Of course, I agree with Cathy and like him and like chicken. A lot. But, I am not sure spending millions on politics against a group is really something that as a front face I would not do.

      1. Rich,Who says that by taking a stand for something you believe in (to use your phrase, “being known for something we are against”) is the ONLY voice of Dan Cathy and Chick-Fila? That’s nonsense. It’s ONE voice. How about giving to missions. How about giving to the poor. How about scholarships for kids. How about the fact that they HAVE been faithful in their own marriages. How about serving faithfully in their home churches. How about all the free food donated.

        That’s what **** me off. Nobody wants to talk about that. Then, you take a stand on one issue, and all of a sudden, “Christians are only known for what they are against”. This is stupid. It’s a line that has been spouted by people so much that Christians say “oh my, that’s terrible, we have to change” and forget that we, as Christ followers, do SO MUCH GOOD that is ignored. Dang I’m so tired of this nonsense.

        1. Spending millions in the political arena is gonna make it hard for Cathy to overcome that as his primary point of context to the general public. That is a fact, not the whole story of who he is, however. Also, couple that with the general boycott nature and political baiting of Christians and the message being sent to the public is what it is.

          You may feel differently, but communicators need to own the result of their message as well. Granted, all the forces are in place. But, some of those are par for the course. So, people are not ignoring the good. It is just the sum of it when we push power and politics into the mix.

          Getting pissed off is really our problem–all of ours. We do not think enough and discuss enough these issues that are far more complex than a chicken sandwich. My last post explained how I think we have been duped into all of this. I think it is proper to ask the question about how we come across. This is not a biblical compromise, but for the sake of the gospel.

          On another note, no motives are being challenged here. Just tactics.

  11. Rick…. He was being interviewed by a Christian Outfit and specifically asked about his stance on traditional marriage. How would you have responded ? He did not saying anything “anti-gay” in the article. When all of the sudden the mayor Boston puffs up his chests and says “Chick Fil A” is not welcome in my city. And then the Mayor of Chicago does the same.

    Then it becomes this huge thing because all of the sudden “Chick Fil A” is anti-gay because liberals say it is. He is attacked and called a bigot, a hate monger and the like.

    While I agree I do not like the fact that Christians are more known for what we are against, rather than what we are for. I believe, at least in this case, it is liberals that have painted this picture. They wanted to cause a stir, and then try to silence free speech by calling their opposition anti this and anti that, bigots, and calling it hate speech.

    I think people are sick and tired of being silenced by people that call for tolerance and long as you agree with their views. I am for equal rights for all humans, I think as Christians we will have a hard time arguing for anything else in light of Scripture. But Chick Fil A isn’t being hated on for treating homosexuals differently. They are being hated on for believing something that is countercultural, The Bible.

    1. Craig,

      He was being interviewed by a politically motivated Christian outlet. looking for a controversy because they are journalists. Both sides (Right and Left) are guilty of the red meat consumption here. Read my post from last week to clarify full context of my thoughts, please. 🙂
      We are being “hated” for being angry, defensive, and not living out most of what we preach. But it is the potential fascism is scary. Boston, Richmond, and Chicago have been trying to bully with government power. That is a danger and actually the ACLU even as decried these.
      We have boycotted Disney, and you name it in the past years. So, what does that say? When will we learn that it is not a compromise of scripture to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in how we express our views?

      1. Rich I just read your other post…. and then I wrote out a witty, insightful, loving, pointed and amazing comment – but it was lost 🙁

    2. Craig, if I could say “Amen” a thousand times I would, but I’ve got work to do.

  12. Rick…. He was being interviewed by a Christian Outfit and specifically asked about his stance on traditional marriage. How would you have responded ? He did not saying anything “anti-gay” in the article. When all of the sudden the mayor Boston puffs up his chests and says “Chick Fil A” is not welcome in my city. And then the Mayor of Chicago does the same.
    Then it becomes this huge thing because all of the sudden “Chick Fil A” is anti-gay because liberals say it is. He is attacked and called a bigot, a hate monger and the like.
    While I agree I do not like the fact that Christians are more known for what we are against, rather than what we are for. I believe, at least in this case, it is liberals that have painted this picture. They wanted to cause a stir, and then try to silence free speech by calling their opposition anti this and anti that, bigots, and calling it hate speech.
    I think people are sick and tired of being silenced by people that call for tolerance and long as you agree with their views. I am for equal rights for all humans, I think as Christians we will have a hard time arguing for anything else in light of Scripture. But Chick Fil A isn’t being hated on for treating homosexuals differently. They are being hated on for believing something that is countercultural, The Bible.

    1. Craig,
      He was being interviewed by a politically motivated Christian outlet. looking for a controversy because they are journalists. Both sides (Right and Left) are guilty of the red meat consumption here. Read my post from last week to clarify full context of my thoughts, please. 🙂
      We are being “hated” for being angry, defensive, and not living out most of what we preach. But it is the potential fascism is scary. Boston, Richmond, and Chicago have been trying to bully with government power. That is a danger and actually the ACLU even as decried these.
      We have boycotted Disney, and you name it in the past years. So, what does that say? When will we learn that it is not a compromise of scripture to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in how we express our views?

      1. Rich I just read your other post…. and then I wrote out a witty, insightful, loving, pointed and amazing comment – but it was lost 🙁

    2. Craig, if I could say “Amen” a thousand times I would, but I’ve got work to do.

  13. Rick…. He was being interviewed by a Christian Outfit and specifically asked about his stance on traditional marriage. How would you have responded ? He did not saying anything “anti-gay” in the article. When all of the sudden the mayor Boston puffs up his chests and says “Chick Fil A” is not welcome in my city. And then the Mayor of Chicago does the same.

    Then it becomes this huge thing because all of the sudden “Chick Fil A” is anti-gay because liberals say it is. He is attacked and called a bigot, a hate monger and the like.

    While I agree I do not like the fact that Christians are more known for what we are against, rather than what we are for. I believe, at least in this case, it is liberals that have painted this picture. They wanted to cause a stir, and then try to silence free speech by calling their opposition anti this and anti that, bigots, and calling it hate speech.

    I think people are sick and tired of being silenced by people that call for tolerance and long as you agree with their views. I am for equal rights for all humans, I think as Christians we will have a hard time arguing for anything else in light of Scripture. But Chick Fil A isn’t being hated on for treating homosexuals differently. They are being hated on for believing something that is countercultural, The Bible.

    1. Craig,

      He was being interviewed by a politically motivated Christian outlet. looking for a controversy because they are journalists. Both sides (Right and Left) are guilty of the red meat consumption here. Read my post from last week to clarify full context of my thoughts, please. 🙂
      We are being “hated” for being angry, defensive, and not living out most of what we preach. But it is the potential fascism is scary. Boston, Richmond, and Chicago have been trying to bully with government power. That is a danger and actually the ACLU even as decried these.
      We have boycotted Disney, and you name it in the past years. So, what does that say? When will we learn that it is not a compromise of scripture to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in how we express our views?

      1. Rich I just read your other post…. and then I wrote out a witty, insightful, loving, pointed and amazing comment – but it was lost 🙁

    2. Craig, if I could say “Amen” a thousand times I would, but I’ve got work to do.

  14. Rick…. He was being interviewed by a Christian Outfit and specifically asked about his stance on traditional marriage. How would you have responded ? He did not saying anything “anti-gay” in the article. When all of the sudden the mayor Boston puffs up his chests and says “Chick Fil A” is not welcome in my city. And then the Mayor of Chicago does the same.

    Then it becomes this huge thing because all of the sudden “Chick Fil A” is anti-gay because liberals say it is. He is attacked and called a bigot, a hate monger and the like.

    While I agree I do not like the fact that Christians are more known for what we are against, rather than what we are for. I believe, at least in this case, it is liberals that have painted this picture. They wanted to cause a stir, and then try to silence free speech by calling their opposition anti this and anti that, bigots, and calling it hate speech.

    I think people are sick and tired of being silenced by people that call for tolerance and long as you agree with their views. I am for equal rights for all humans, I think as Christians we will have a hard time arguing for anything else in light of Scripture. But Chick Fil A isn’t being hated on for treating homosexuals differently. They are being hated on for believing something that is countercultural, The Bible.

    1. Craig,

      He was being interviewed by a politically motivated Christian outlet. looking for a controversy because they are journalists. Both sides (Right and Left) are guilty of the red meat consumption here. Read my post from last week to clarify full context of my thoughts, please. 🙂
      We are being “hated” for being angry, defensive, and not living out most of what we preach. But it is the potential fascism is scary. Boston, Richmond, and Chicago have been trying to bully with government power. That is a danger and actually the ACLU even as decried these.
      We have boycotted Disney, and you name it in the past years. So, what does that say? When will we learn that it is not a compromise of scripture to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in how we express our views?

      1. Rich I just read your other post…. and then I wrote out a witty, insightful, loving, pointed and amazing comment – but it was lost 🙁

    2. Craig, if I could say “Amen” a thousand times I would, but I’ve got work to do.

  15. Rick…. He was being interviewed by a Christian Outfit and specifically asked about his stance on traditional marriage. How would you have responded ? He did not saying anything “anti-gay” in the article. When all of the sudden the mayor Boston puffs up his chests and says “Chick Fil A” is not welcome in my city. And then the Mayor of Chicago does the same.

    Then it becomes this huge thing because all of the sudden “Chick Fil A” is anti-gay because liberals say it is. He is attacked and called a bigot, a hate monger and the like.

    While I agree I do not like the fact that Christians are more known for what we are against, rather than what we are for. I believe, at least in this case, it is liberals that have painted this picture. They wanted to cause a stir, and then try to silence free speech by calling their opposition anti this and anti that, bigots, and calling it hate speech.

    I think people are sick and tired of being silenced by people that call for tolerance and long as you agree with their views. I am for equal rights for all humans, I think as Christians we will have a hard time arguing for anything else in light of Scripture. But Chick Fil A isn’t being hated on for treating homosexuals differently. They are being hated on for believing something that is countercultural, The Bible.

    1. Craig,

      He was being interviewed by a politically motivated Christian outlet. looking for a controversy because they are journalists. Both sides (Right and Left) are guilty of the red meat consumption here. Read my post from last week to clarify full context of my thoughts, please. 🙂
      We are being “hated” for being angry, defensive, and not living out most of what we preach. But it is the potential fascism is scary. Boston, Richmond, and Chicago have been trying to bully with government power. That is a danger and actually the ACLU even as decried these.
      We have boycotted Disney, and you name it in the past years. So, what does that say? When will we learn that it is not a compromise of scripture to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in how we express our views?

      1. Rich I just read your other post…. and then I wrote out a witty, insightful, loving, pointed and amazing comment – but it was lost 🙁

    2. Craig, if I could say “Amen” a thousand times I would, but I’ve got work to do.

  16. I wanted Fred, Craig, Janis and the rest of “all y’all” to know that I did write this:”The full picture of who Dan Cathy may be is dwarfed and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.”

    And, I edited slightly the first sentence to paragraph two by adding “accidentally” because I stand corrected. That is what I meant to say, not that Cathy INTENDED anything other than an affirmative simple statement as I said in this last article much better. (Please read that one, too). Picking Sides: Chick-fil-A as read meat for Conservatives & Liberals

  17. I wanted Fred, Craig, Janis and the rest of “all y’all” to know that I did write this:”The full picture of who Dan Cathy may be is dwarfed and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.”
    And, I edited slightly the first sentence to paragraph two by adding “accidentally” because I stand corrected. That is what I meant to say, not that Cathy INTENDED anything other than an affirmative simple statement as I said in this last article much better. (Please read that one, too). Picking Sides: Chick-fil-A as read meat for Conservatives & Liberals

    1. I’m just going to boycott your blog and friendship. 😉

  18. I wanted Fred, Craig, Janis and the rest of “all y’all” to know that I did write this:”The full picture of who Dan Cathy may be is dwarfed and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.”

    And, I edited slightly the first sentence to paragraph two by adding “accidentally” because I stand corrected. That is what I meant to say, not that Cathy INTENDED anything other than an affirmative simple statement as I said in this last article much better. (Please read that one, too). Picking Sides: Chick-fil-A as read meat for Conservatives & Liberals

  19. I wanted Fred, Craig, Janis and the rest of “all y’all” to know that I did write this:”The full picture of who Dan Cathy may be is dwarfed and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.”

    And, I edited slightly the first sentence to paragraph two by adding “accidentally” because I stand corrected. That is what I meant to say, not that Cathy INTENDED anything other than an affirmative simple statement as I said in this last article much better. (Please read that one, too). Picking Sides: Chick-fil-A as read meat for Conservatives & Liberals

  20. I wanted Fred, Craig, Janis and the rest of “all y’all” to know that I did write this:”The full picture of who Dan Cathy may be is dwarfed and Christianity is represented as a boycott religion once again.”

    And, I edited slightly the first sentence to paragraph two by adding “accidentally” because I stand corrected. That is what I meant to say, not that Cathy INTENDED anything other than an affirmative simple statement as I said in this last article much better. (Please read that one, too). Picking Sides: Chick-fil-A as read meat for Conservatives & Liberals

  21. I recently reread everything that Dan Cathy actually said, and to me, it didn’t come across as anti-gay, nor did he, in my opinion (which I know isn’t a whole lot), fail to give a clear view of Christianity. He wasn’t trying to give a “clear view” firstly. Look at who he was talking to. He {rightfully} assumed Christianity was understood. He went from what he understood as a common ground to view his personal opinion of what the Bible says about marriage.

    Ps – I agree with your title. It’s like throwing a bumper sticker on your car that says “Eternity, extra crispy or original recipe?” (wrong food chain, I know…)

    1. Yep, the bumper sticker thing is killing us all.

      Cathy is giving a less than full or clear picture of Christian faith if the only thing people see or hear is that he is anti-gay. (Look here for what he said in several places http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us/gay-rights-uproar-over-chick-fil-a-widens.html). It is not perhaps intentional, but it is the result.

      What many people are doing by buying a chicken sandwich is feeling spiritually righteous in the act all the while politically giving a statement as well. Shear genius on Huckabee’s part and perhaps the tab from sales will allow more stores to open. I bet it will.

      In the end, controversy profits.

      1. Again, I have to admit that I don’t think his comments were “anti-gay.” He’s said on more than one occasion that they welcomely serve all. He simply stated that it’s his belief that marriage , as defined in the Bible, is between one man and one woman. He didn’t say “Gay people are messed up,” “I hate gay people,” or “Gay people go straight to hell.” He was on the defensive side of marriage, not the offense side. Granted, his “shakes a fist at God” comment may have been a little harsh – but as harsh as it was, it wasn’t anti-anything. He’s pro-biblical family.

        If we start labeling him (or anyone else who feels the same way) as “Anti-gay,” then the media should also stop calling groups “Gay-rights activists” and start calling them “Anti-Biblical Family activists,” To me, it’s the same difference.

        1. You might also have to admit that others will hear it differently, especially if you give money to defeat gay rights. He has right to do all that he is doing and I agree with the biblical view of marriage, just not the politics.

          The point is, it sure does not make people a better Christian to stand in line for a chicken sandwich. What other things can we or should we be known for? It is simply a question.

  22. I recently reread everything that Dan Cathy actually said, and to me, it didn’t come across as anti-gay, nor did he, in my opinion (which I know isn’t a whole lot), fail to give a clear view of Christianity. He wasn’t trying to give a “clear view” firstly. Look at who he was talking to. He {rightfully} assumed Christianity was understood. He went from what he understood as a common ground to view his personal opinion of what the Bible says about marriage.
    Ps – I agree with your title. It’s like throwing a bumper sticker on your car that says “Eternity, extra crispy or original recipe?” (wrong food chain, I know…)

    1. Yep, the bumper sticker thing is killing us all.
      Cathy is giving a less than full or clear picture of Christian faith if the only thing people see or hear is that he is anti-gay. (Look here for what he said in several places http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us/gay-rights-uproar-over-chick-fil-a-widens.html). It is not perhaps intentional, but it is the result.
      What many people are doing by buying a chicken sandwich is feeling spiritually righteous in the act all the while politically giving a statement as well. Shear genius on Huckabee’s part and perhaps the tab from sales will allow more stores to open. I bet it will.
      In the end, controversy profits.

      1. Again, I have to admit that I don’t think his comments were “anti-gay.” He’s said on more than one occasion that they welcomely serve all. He simply stated that it’s his belief that marriage , as defined in the Bible, is between one man and one woman. He didn’t say “Gay people are messed up,” “I hate gay people,” or “Gay people go straight to hell.” He was on the defensive side of marriage, not the offense side. Granted, his “shakes a fist at God” comment may have been a little harsh – but as harsh as it was, it wasn’t anti-anything. He’s pro-biblical family.
        If we start labeling him (or anyone else who feels the same way) as “Anti-gay,” then the media should also stop calling groups “Gay-rights activists” and start calling them “Anti-Biblical Family activists,” To me, it’s the same difference.

        1. You might also have to admit that others will hear it differently, especially if you give money to defeat gay rights. He has right to do all that he is doing and I agree with the biblical view of marriage, just not the politics.
          The point is, it sure does not make people a better Christian to stand in line for a chicken sandwich. What other things can we or should we be known for? It is simply a question.

  23. I recently reread everything that Dan Cathy actually said, and to me, it didn’t come across as anti-gay, nor did he, in my opinion (which I know isn’t a whole lot), fail to give a clear view of Christianity. He wasn’t trying to give a “clear view” firstly. Look at who he was talking to. He {rightfully} assumed Christianity was understood. He went from what he understood as a common ground to view his personal opinion of what the Bible says about marriage.

    Ps – I agree with your title. It’s like throwing a bumper sticker on your car that says “Eternity, extra crispy or original recipe?” (wrong food chain, I know…)

    1. Yep, the bumper sticker thing is killing us all.

      Cathy is giving a less than full or clear picture of Christian faith if the only thing people see or hear is that he is anti-gay. (Look here for what he said in several places http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us/gay-rights-uproar-over-chick-fil-a-widens.html). It is not perhaps intentional, but it is the result.

      What many people are doing by buying a chicken sandwich is feeling spiritually righteous in the act all the while politically giving a statement as well. Shear genius on Huckabee’s part and perhaps the tab from sales will allow more stores to open. I bet it will.

      In the end, controversy profits.

      1. Again, I have to admit that I don’t think his comments were “anti-gay.” He’s said on more than one occasion that they welcomely serve all. He simply stated that it’s his belief that marriage , as defined in the Bible, is between one man and one woman. He didn’t say “Gay people are messed up,” “I hate gay people,” or “Gay people go straight to hell.” He was on the defensive side of marriage, not the offense side. Granted, his “shakes a fist at God” comment may have been a little harsh – but as harsh as it was, it wasn’t anti-anything. He’s pro-biblical family.

        If we start labeling him (or anyone else who feels the same way) as “Anti-gay,” then the media should also stop calling groups “Gay-rights activists” and start calling them “Anti-Biblical Family activists,” To me, it’s the same difference.

        1. You might also have to admit that others will hear it differently, especially if you give money to defeat gay rights. He has right to do all that he is doing and I agree with the biblical view of marriage, just not the politics.

          The point is, it sure does not make people a better Christian to stand in line for a chicken sandwich. What other things can we or should we be known for? It is simply a question.

  24. I recently reread everything that Dan Cathy actually said, and to me, it didn’t come across as anti-gay, nor did he, in my opinion (which I know isn’t a whole lot), fail to give a clear view of Christianity. He wasn’t trying to give a “clear view” firstly. Look at who he was talking to. He {rightfully} assumed Christianity was understood. He went from what he understood as a common ground to view his personal opinion of what the Bible says about marriage.

    Ps – I agree with your title. It’s like throwing a bumper sticker on your car that says “Eternity, extra crispy or original recipe?” (wrong food chain, I know…)

    1. Yep, the bumper sticker thing is killing us all.

      Cathy is giving a less than full or clear picture of Christian faith if the only thing people see or hear is that he is anti-gay. (Look here for what he said in several places http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us/gay-rights-uproar-over-chick-fil-a-widens.html). It is not perhaps intentional, but it is the result.

      What many people are doing by buying a chicken sandwich is feeling spiritually righteous in the act all the while politically giving a statement as well. Shear genius on Huckabee’s part and perhaps the tab from sales will allow more stores to open. I bet it will.

      In the end, controversy profits.

      1. Again, I have to admit that I don’t think his comments were “anti-gay.” He’s said on more than one occasion that they welcomely serve all. He simply stated that it’s his belief that marriage , as defined in the Bible, is between one man and one woman. He didn’t say “Gay people are messed up,” “I hate gay people,” or “Gay people go straight to hell.” He was on the defensive side of marriage, not the offense side. Granted, his “shakes a fist at God” comment may have been a little harsh – but as harsh as it was, it wasn’t anti-anything. He’s pro-biblical family.

        If we start labeling him (or anyone else who feels the same way) as “Anti-gay,” then the media should also stop calling groups “Gay-rights activists” and start calling them “Anti-Biblical Family activists,” To me, it’s the same difference.

        1. You might also have to admit that others will hear it differently, especially if you give money to defeat gay rights. He has right to do all that he is doing and I agree with the biblical view of marriage, just not the politics.

          The point is, it sure does not make people a better Christian to stand in line for a chicken sandwich. What other things can we or should we be known for? It is simply a question.

  25. I recently reread everything that Dan Cathy actually said, and to me, it didn’t come across as anti-gay, nor did he, in my opinion (which I know isn’t a whole lot), fail to give a clear view of Christianity. He wasn’t trying to give a “clear view” firstly. Look at who he was talking to. He {rightfully} assumed Christianity was understood. He went from what he understood as a common ground to view his personal opinion of what the Bible says about marriage.

    Ps – I agree with your title. It’s like throwing a bumper sticker on your car that says “Eternity, extra crispy or original recipe?” (wrong food chain, I know…)

    1. Yep, the bumper sticker thing is killing us all.

      Cathy is giving a less than full or clear picture of Christian faith if the only thing people see or hear is that he is anti-gay. (Look here for what he said in several places http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/26/us/gay-rights-uproar-over-chick-fil-a-widens.html). It is not perhaps intentional, but it is the result.

      What many people are doing by buying a chicken sandwich is feeling spiritually righteous in the act all the while politically giving a statement as well. Shear genius on Huckabee’s part and perhaps the tab from sales will allow more stores to open. I bet it will.

      In the end, controversy profits.

      1. Again, I have to admit that I don’t think his comments were “anti-gay.” He’s said on more than one occasion that they welcomely serve all. He simply stated that it’s his belief that marriage , as defined in the Bible, is between one man and one woman. He didn’t say “Gay people are messed up,” “I hate gay people,” or “Gay people go straight to hell.” He was on the defensive side of marriage, not the offense side. Granted, his “shakes a fist at God” comment may have been a little harsh – but as harsh as it was, it wasn’t anti-anything. He’s pro-biblical family.

        If we start labeling him (or anyone else who feels the same way) as “Anti-gay,” then the media should also stop calling groups “Gay-rights activists” and start calling them “Anti-Biblical Family activists,” To me, it’s the same difference.

        1. You might also have to admit that others will hear it differently, especially if you give money to defeat gay rights. He has right to do all that he is doing and I agree with the biblical view of marriage, just not the politics.

          The point is, it sure does not make people a better Christian to stand in line for a chicken sandwich. What other things can we or should we be known for? It is simply a question.

  26. Thanks, Rich, for this thoughtful and thought provoking post. Unfortunately, I know the players in this drama all too well. Agh!

    1. Randy, thanks, As a fellow dreamer, my hope is that Christians learn to better engage our culture without picking these lessor fights. I will surely continue to eat there, but just on a day they are not as crowded 😉

  27. Thanks, Rich, for this thoughtful and thought provoking post. Unfortunately, I know the players in this drama all too well. Agh!

    1. Randy, thanks, As a fellow dreamer, my hope is that Christians learn to better engage our culture without picking these lessor fights. I will surely continue to eat there, but just on a day they are not as crowded 😉

  28. Thanks, Rich, for this thoughtful and thought provoking post. Unfortunately, I know the players in this drama all too well. Agh!

    1. Randy, thanks, As a fellow dreamer, my hope is that Christians learn to better engage our culture without picking these lessor fights. I will surely continue to eat there, but just on a day they are not as crowded 😉

  29. Thanks, Rich, for this thoughtful and thought provoking post. Unfortunately, I know the players in this drama all too well. Agh!

    1. Randy, thanks, As a fellow dreamer, my hope is that Christians learn to better engage our culture without picking these lessor fights. I will surely continue to eat there, but just on a day they are not as crowded 😉

  30. Thanks, Rich, for this thoughtful and thought provoking post. Unfortunately, I know the players in this drama all too well. Agh!

    1. Randy, thanks, As a fellow dreamer, my hope is that Christians learn to better engage our culture without picking these lessor fights. I will surely continue to eat there, but just on a day they are not as crowded 😉

  31. Going to Chick-fil-a does not make anyone a better Christian. It does however offer support for one who had the guts to speak out about a value that I believe our founding fathers would defend who is a Christian. Eating a sandwich is not a boycott, it is a vote, a gesture of encouragement, and an amen to a conviction. The reason it is so profound in the media is that it gave them a skirmish to amplify. His statement was not divisive or hateful. The spin was divisive and hateful.

    Our laws permit gays to kiss in public. Kiss away. It is sarcastic, rude, and unnecessary. We ate Chick-fil-a today, and as a fellow business person who is not ashamed to stand up for biblical values, I am happy to have supported a Brother who could probably use a little encouragement. We employ a couple of openly gay people. We do not discriminate, appreciate their very hard work (they happen to be among our best workers) and do not call them out when they dance with their partners at the company Christmas party.

    America is still free. Free for all, but there have to be limits.

    1. Offering support is indeed what it is–political, spiritual self-affirmation that only costs standing in line and being a consumer. This is all blown way out of proportion and actually profits all fringes on the Left and Right.

  32. Going to Chick-fil-a does not make anyone a better Christian. It does however offer support for one who had the guts to speak out about a value that I believe our founding fathers would defend who is a Christian. Eating a sandwich is not a boycott, it is a vote, a gesture of encouragement, and an amen to a conviction. The reason it is so profound in the media is that it gave them a skirmish to amplify. His statement was not divisive or hateful. The spin was divisive and hateful.
    Our laws permit gays to kiss in public. Kiss away. It is sarcastic, rude, and unnecessary. We ate Chick-fil-a today, and as a fellow business person who is not ashamed to stand up for biblical values, I am happy to have supported a Brother who could probably use a little encouragement. We employ a couple of openly gay people. We do not discriminate, appreciate their very hard work (they happen to be among our best workers) and do not call them out when they dance with their partners at the company Christmas party.
    America is still free. Free for all, but there have to be limits.

    1. Offering support is indeed what it is–political, spiritual self-affirmation that only costs standing in line and being a consumer. This is all blown way out of proportion and actually profits all fringes on the Left and Right.

  33. Going to Chick-fil-a does not make anyone a better Christian. It does however offer support for one who had the guts to speak out about a value that I believe our founding fathers would defend who is a Christian. Eating a sandwich is not a boycott, it is a vote, a gesture of encouragement, and an amen to a conviction. The reason it is so profound in the media is that it gave them a skirmish to amplify. His statement was not divisive or hateful. The spin was divisive and hateful.

    Our laws permit gays to kiss in public. Kiss away. It is sarcastic, rude, and unnecessary. We ate Chick-fil-a today, and as a fellow business person who is not ashamed to stand up for biblical values, I am happy to have supported a Brother who could probably use a little encouragement. We employ a couple of openly gay people. We do not discriminate, appreciate their very hard work (they happen to be among our best workers) and do not call them out when they dance with their partners at the company Christmas party.

    America is still free. Free for all, but there have to be limits.

    1. Offering support is indeed what it is–political, spiritual self-affirmation that only costs standing in line and being a consumer. This is all blown way out of proportion and actually profits all fringes on the Left and Right.

  34. Going to Chick-fil-a does not make anyone a better Christian. It does however offer support for one who had the guts to speak out about a value that I believe our founding fathers would defend who is a Christian. Eating a sandwich is not a boycott, it is a vote, a gesture of encouragement, and an amen to a conviction. The reason it is so profound in the media is that it gave them a skirmish to amplify. His statement was not divisive or hateful. The spin was divisive and hateful.

    Our laws permit gays to kiss in public. Kiss away. It is sarcastic, rude, and unnecessary. We ate Chick-fil-a today, and as a fellow business person who is not ashamed to stand up for biblical values, I am happy to have supported a Brother who could probably use a little encouragement. We employ a couple of openly gay people. We do not discriminate, appreciate their very hard work (they happen to be among our best workers) and do not call them out when they dance with their partners at the company Christmas party.

    America is still free. Free for all, but there have to be limits.

    1. Offering support is indeed what it is–political, spiritual self-affirmation that only costs standing in line and being a consumer. This is all blown way out of proportion and actually profits all fringes on the Left and Right.

  35. Going to Chick-fil-a does not make anyone a better Christian. It does however offer support for one who had the guts to speak out about a value that I believe our founding fathers would defend who is a Christian. Eating a sandwich is not a boycott, it is a vote, a gesture of encouragement, and an amen to a conviction. The reason it is so profound in the media is that it gave them a skirmish to amplify. His statement was not divisive or hateful. The spin was divisive and hateful.

    Our laws permit gays to kiss in public. Kiss away. It is sarcastic, rude, and unnecessary. We ate Chick-fil-a today, and as a fellow business person who is not ashamed to stand up for biblical values, I am happy to have supported a Brother who could probably use a little encouragement. We employ a couple of openly gay people. We do not discriminate, appreciate their very hard work (they happen to be among our best workers) and do not call them out when they dance with their partners at the company Christmas party.

    America is still free. Free for all, but there have to be limits.

    1. Offering support is indeed what it is–political, spiritual self-affirmation that only costs standing in line and being a consumer. This is all blown way out of proportion and actually profits all fringes on the Left and Right.

  36. I think the big issue I have with the whole Chick-fil-a deal (besides that I don’t actually agree with him politically – not spiritually – although I’m sure that still means I’m headed to hell in a handbasket) is that he didn’t share it as his opinion. When he was asked if Chic-fil-a supported traditional family, which I understand he was, I would have loved for him to state that Chic-fil-a is a restaurant, not a political outlet, and even share his personal opinion if he wanted to. Of course, I don’t think he actually sees it that way, so I imagine he wouldn’t say that.

    1. Bobby he did do that in the interview… he actually said “”We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.””That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.””In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added.”

      Here is the original article… the “traditional marriage” comments he made is at the very bottom of the page, the end of the article.

      http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

    2. Regardless, it was obviously good for business! Truly, in the towns they market to there are plenty of fans. Perhaps people had to “support” by going Wednesday because many need validation for their faith’s status in society. Are we a Christian nation?

      We want Chick-fil-A to be like Tebow and to be our surrogated spirituality in the public square. These both are actually good examples in and of themselves as people and business! The problem is more with the masses of cultured-Christians that use the symbols as cultural-political statements because faith is shallow both in theology and practice.

  37. I think the big issue I have with the whole Chick-fil-a deal (besides that I don’t actually agree with him politically – not spiritually – although I’m sure that still means I’m headed to hell in a handbasket) is that he didn’t share it as his opinion. When he was asked if Chic-fil-a supported traditional family, which I understand he was, I would have loved for him to state that Chic-fil-a is a restaurant, not a political outlet, and even share his personal opinion if he wanted to. Of course, I don’t think he actually sees it that way, so I imagine he wouldn’t say that.

    1. Bobby he did do that in the interview… he actually said “”We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.””That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.””In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added.”
      Here is the original article… the “traditional marriage” comments he made is at the very bottom of the page, the end of the article.
      http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

    2. Regardless, it was obviously good for business! Truly, in the towns they market to there are plenty of fans. Perhaps people had to “support” by going Wednesday because many need validation for their faith’s status in society. Are we a Christian nation?
      We want Chick-fil-A to be like Tebow and to be our surrogated spirituality in the public square. These both are actually good examples in and of themselves as people and business! The problem is more with the masses of cultured-Christians that use the symbols as cultural-political statements because faith is shallow both in theology and practice.

  38. I think the big issue I have with the whole Chick-fil-a deal (besides that I don’t actually agree with him politically – not spiritually – although I’m sure that still means I’m headed to hell in a handbasket) is that he didn’t share it as his opinion. When he was asked if Chic-fil-a supported traditional family, which I understand he was, I would have loved for him to state that Chic-fil-a is a restaurant, not a political outlet, and even share his personal opinion if he wanted to. Of course, I don’t think he actually sees it that way, so I imagine he wouldn’t say that.

    1. Bobby he did do that in the interview… he actually said “”We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.””That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.””In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added.”

      Here is the original article… the “traditional marriage” comments he made is at the very bottom of the page, the end of the article.

      http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

    2. Regardless, it was obviously good for business! Truly, in the towns they market to there are plenty of fans. Perhaps people had to “support” by going Wednesday because many need validation for their faith’s status in society. Are we a Christian nation?

      We want Chick-fil-A to be like Tebow and to be our surrogated spirituality in the public square. These both are actually good examples in and of themselves as people and business! The problem is more with the masses of cultured-Christians that use the symbols as cultural-political statements because faith is shallow both in theology and practice.

  39. I think the big issue I have with the whole Chick-fil-a deal (besides that I don’t actually agree with him politically – not spiritually – although I’m sure that still means I’m headed to hell in a handbasket) is that he didn’t share it as his opinion. When he was asked if Chic-fil-a supported traditional family, which I understand he was, I would have loved for him to state that Chic-fil-a is a restaurant, not a political outlet, and even share his personal opinion if he wanted to. Of course, I don’t think he actually sees it that way, so I imagine he wouldn’t say that.

    1. Bobby he did do that in the interview… he actually said “”We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.””That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.””In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added.”

      Here is the original article… the “traditional marriage” comments he made is at the very bottom of the page, the end of the article.

      http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

    2. Regardless, it was obviously good for business! Truly, in the towns they market to there are plenty of fans. Perhaps people had to “support” by going Wednesday because many need validation for their faith’s status in society. Are we a Christian nation?

      We want Chick-fil-A to be like Tebow and to be our surrogated spirituality in the public square. These both are actually good examples in and of themselves as people and business! The problem is more with the masses of cultured-Christians that use the symbols as cultural-political statements because faith is shallow both in theology and practice.

  40. I think the big issue I have with the whole Chick-fil-a deal (besides that I don’t actually agree with him politically – not spiritually – although I’m sure that still means I’m headed to hell in a handbasket) is that he didn’t share it as his opinion. When he was asked if Chic-fil-a supported traditional family, which I understand he was, I would have loved for him to state that Chic-fil-a is a restaurant, not a political outlet, and even share his personal opinion if he wanted to. Of course, I don’t think he actually sees it that way, so I imagine he wouldn’t say that.

    1. Bobby he did do that in the interview… he actually said “”We don’t claim to be a Christian business,” Cathy told the Biblical Recorder in a recent visit to North Carolina. He attended a business leadership conference many years ago where he heard Christian businessman Fred Roach say, “There is no such thing as a Christian business.””That got my attention,” Cathy said. Roach went on to say, “Christ never died for a corporation. He died for you and me.””In that spirit … [Christianity] is about a personal relationship. Companies are not lost or saved, but certainly individuals are,” Cathy added.”

      Here is the original article… the “traditional marriage” comments he made is at the very bottom of the page, the end of the article.

      http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

    2. Regardless, it was obviously good for business! Truly, in the towns they market to there are plenty of fans. Perhaps people had to “support” by going Wednesday because many need validation for their faith’s status in society. Are we a Christian nation?

      We want Chick-fil-A to be like Tebow and to be our surrogated spirituality in the public square. These both are actually good examples in and of themselves as people and business! The problem is more with the masses of cultured-Christians that use the symbols as cultural-political statements because faith is shallow both in theology and practice.

  41. I support marriage equality, LBGT issues in the church, full inclusion, et al. I come from a strain of the church called liberal catholicism that finds its expression in some parts of the Episcopal, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox churches. I think Evangelicals are misguided if you believe your expression of support for Dan Cathy by standing in line for some chicken tenders was remotely helpful in the spread of the Gospel of Jesus. It seemed to me to be one of those preaching to the choir moments. Let’s make ourselves feel good and stand up for our values by eating chicken. What the rest of us saw was a bunch of bigots on the wrong side of history reinforcing the church’s irrelevance by being manipulated by the culture. For those that suggest that Dan Cathy’s stance are countercultural are just wrong. Countercultural would mean that less than 10% of the people believe in something. As best I can tell, most Americans are still on the conservative side of marriage equality for gay folk. I believe Dan Cathy should stand up for what he believes, but the display of support for Cathy’s beliefs yesterday did untold harm for the propagation of the Gospel. If Dan Cathy was baited by the liberals, than he needs a better P.R. firm. Personally, I’ll continue to shop at Chik-fil-A. I like their food and I like that they close on Sunday. I don’t like Dan’s stance on gay marriage but well over half my family shares his position and I’m still going to Thanksgiving dinner. How about some civility instead of wasted displays of solidarity.

    1. Steve, thanks for commenting. The “show of solidarity” is truly an insightful description. I am not sure the calls for conservatives to get fat and die from eating fried chicken are civil, nor being called “bigots” because theology says a lifestyle is wrong should deserve such a response. So, civility is something–with no clear majority ruling–that should reign in the discussion. Charity is needed! I am simply trying to express how Christians came across yesterday in my opinion and hope that helpful conversation then ensues.

  42. I support marriage equality, LBGT issues in the church, full inclusion, et al. I come from a strain of the church called liberal catholicism that finds its expression in some parts of the Episcopal, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox churches. I think Evangelicals are misguided if you believe your expression of support for Dan Cathy by standing in line for some chicken tenders was remotely helpful in the spread of the Gospel of Jesus. It seemed to me to be one of those preaching to the choir moments. Let’s make ourselves feel good and stand up for our values by eating chicken. What the rest of us saw was a bunch of bigots on the wrong side of history reinforcing the church’s irrelevance by being manipulated by the culture. For those that suggest that Dan Cathy’s stance are countercultural are just wrong. Countercultural would mean that less than 10% of the people believe in something. As best I can tell, most Americans are still on the conservative side of marriage equality for gay folk. I believe Dan Cathy should stand up for what he believes, but the display of support for Cathy’s beliefs yesterday did untold harm for the propagation of the Gospel. If Dan Cathy was baited by the liberals, than he needs a better P.R. firm. Personally, I’ll continue to shop at Chik-fil-A. I like their food and I like that they close on Sunday. I don’t like Dan’s stance on gay marriage but well over half my family shares his position and I’m still going to Thanksgiving dinner. How about some civility instead of wasted displays of solidarity.

    1. Steve, thanks for commenting. The “show of solidarity” is truly an insightful description. I am not sure the calls for conservatives to get fat and die from eating fried chicken are civil, nor being called “bigots” because theology says a lifestyle is wrong should deserve such a response. So, civility is something–with no clear majority ruling–that should reign in the discussion. Charity is needed! I am simply trying to express how Christians came across yesterday in my opinion and hope that helpful conversation then ensues.

  43. I support marriage equality, LBGT issues in the church, full inclusion, et al. I come from a strain of the church called liberal catholicism that finds its expression in some parts of the Episcopal, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox churches. I think Evangelicals are misguided if you believe your expression of support for Dan Cathy by standing in line for some chicken tenders was remotely helpful in the spread of the Gospel of Jesus. It seemed to me to be one of those preaching to the choir moments. Let’s make ourselves feel good and stand up for our values by eating chicken. What the rest of us saw was a bunch of bigots on the wrong side of history reinforcing the church’s irrelevance by being manipulated by the culture. For those that suggest that Dan Cathy’s stance are countercultural are just wrong. Countercultural would mean that less than 10% of the people believe in something. As best I can tell, most Americans are still on the conservative side of marriage equality for gay folk. I believe Dan Cathy should stand up for what he believes, but the display of support for Cathy’s beliefs yesterday did untold harm for the propagation of the Gospel. If Dan Cathy was baited by the liberals, than he needs a better P.R. firm. Personally, I’ll continue to shop at Chik-fil-A. I like their food and I like that they close on Sunday. I don’t like Dan’s stance on gay marriage but well over half my family shares his position and I’m still going to Thanksgiving dinner. How about some civility instead of wasted displays of solidarity.

    1. Steve, thanks for commenting. The “show of solidarity” is truly an insightful description. I am not sure the calls for conservatives to get fat and die from eating fried chicken are civil, nor being called “bigots” because theology says a lifestyle is wrong should deserve such a response. So, civility is something–with no clear majority ruling–that should reign in the discussion. Charity is needed! I am simply trying to express how Christians came across yesterday in my opinion and hope that helpful conversation then ensues.

  44. I support marriage equality, LBGT issues in the church, full inclusion, et al. I come from a strain of the church called liberal catholicism that finds its expression in some parts of the Episcopal, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox churches. I think Evangelicals are misguided if you believe your expression of support for Dan Cathy by standing in line for some chicken tenders was remotely helpful in the spread of the Gospel of Jesus. It seemed to me to be one of those preaching to the choir moments. Let’s make ourselves feel good and stand up for our values by eating chicken. What the rest of us saw was a bunch of bigots on the wrong side of history reinforcing the church’s irrelevance by being manipulated by the culture. For those that suggest that Dan Cathy’s stance are countercultural are just wrong. Countercultural would mean that less than 10% of the people believe in something. As best I can tell, most Americans are still on the conservative side of marriage equality for gay folk. I believe Dan Cathy should stand up for what he believes, but the display of support for Cathy’s beliefs yesterday did untold harm for the propagation of the Gospel. If Dan Cathy was baited by the liberals, than he needs a better P.R. firm. Personally, I’ll continue to shop at Chik-fil-A. I like their food and I like that they close on Sunday. I don’t like Dan’s stance on gay marriage but well over half my family shares his position and I’m still going to Thanksgiving dinner. How about some civility instead of wasted displays of solidarity.

    1. Steve, thanks for commenting. The “show of solidarity” is truly an insightful description. I am not sure the calls for conservatives to get fat and die from eating fried chicken are civil, nor being called “bigots” because theology says a lifestyle is wrong should deserve such a response. So, civility is something–with no clear majority ruling–that should reign in the discussion. Charity is needed! I am simply trying to express how Christians came across yesterday in my opinion and hope that helpful conversation then ensues.

  45. I support marriage equality, LBGT issues in the church, full inclusion, et al. I come from a strain of the church called liberal catholicism that finds its expression in some parts of the Episcopal, Lutheran, Roman Catholic, and Orthodox churches. I think Evangelicals are misguided if you believe your expression of support for Dan Cathy by standing in line for some chicken tenders was remotely helpful in the spread of the Gospel of Jesus. It seemed to me to be one of those preaching to the choir moments. Let’s make ourselves feel good and stand up for our values by eating chicken. What the rest of us saw was a bunch of bigots on the wrong side of history reinforcing the church’s irrelevance by being manipulated by the culture. For those that suggest that Dan Cathy’s stance are countercultural are just wrong. Countercultural would mean that less than 10% of the people believe in something. As best I can tell, most Americans are still on the conservative side of marriage equality for gay folk. I believe Dan Cathy should stand up for what he believes, but the display of support for Cathy’s beliefs yesterday did untold harm for the propagation of the Gospel. If Dan Cathy was baited by the liberals, than he needs a better P.R. firm. Personally, I’ll continue to shop at Chik-fil-A. I like their food and I like that they close on Sunday. I don’t like Dan’s stance on gay marriage but well over half my family shares his position and I’m still going to Thanksgiving dinner. How about some civility instead of wasted displays of solidarity.

    1. Steve, thanks for commenting. The “show of solidarity” is truly an insightful description. I am not sure the calls for conservatives to get fat and die from eating fried chicken are civil, nor being called “bigots” because theology says a lifestyle is wrong should deserve such a response. So, civility is something–with no clear majority ruling–that should reign in the discussion. Charity is needed! I am simply trying to express how Christians came across yesterday in my opinion and hope that helpful conversation then ensues.

  46. Sorry, Rich, not sure I agree with you. I just think people are making a much bigger deal of this than it should be. If any other religion had expressed their beliefs to a group of like-minded individuals, I don’t think they would be getting the attention that this whole thing is. I ask myself, what would Jesus do if he was in Dan Cathy’s place. Food for though.

    1. Janis, I think Christians are losing from this, and it is a big deal–world record sales, and people lining up after a politician mobilized them. We need a surrogated way to express our faith and keep being duped into a social and political war when we should be known more for that than being simply a political base.

      Realize this, that the expression here was not to likeminded people. It was for the world to see. Remember in Redding when the Sikh temple was vandalized? What Christian church showed outrage? Here in my town, people were calling Muslims terrorists because after 10 years a mosque was finally going to be built. It made the NYT. We have both an image problem and lack of a good track record. So, we should cry foul less and extend love more, as It is easy to hide behind our numbers.

  47. Sorry, Rich, not sure I agree with you. I just think people are making a much bigger deal of this than it should be. If any other religion had expressed their beliefs to a group of like-minded individuals, I don’t think they would be getting the attention that this whole thing is. I ask myself, what would Jesus do if he was in Dan Cathy’s place. Food for though.

    1. Janis, I think Christians are losing from this, and it is a big deal–world record sales, and people lining up after a politician mobilized them. We need a surrogated way to express our faith and keep being duped into a social and political war when we should be known more for that than being simply a political base.
      Realize this, that the expression here was not to likeminded people. It was for the world to see. Remember in Redding when the Sikh temple was vandalized? What Christian church showed outrage? Here in my town, people were calling Muslims terrorists because after 10 years a mosque was finally going to be built. It made the NYT. We have both an image problem and lack of a good track record. So, we should cry foul less and extend love more, as It is easy to hide behind our numbers.

  48. Sorry, Rich, not sure I agree with you. I just think people are making a much bigger deal of this than it should be. If any other religion had expressed their beliefs to a group of like-minded individuals, I don’t think they would be getting the attention that this whole thing is. I ask myself, what would Jesus do if he was in Dan Cathy’s place. Food for though.

    1. Janis, I think Christians are losing from this, and it is a big deal–world record sales, and people lining up after a politician mobilized them. We need a surrogated way to express our faith and keep being duped into a social and political war when we should be known more for that than being simply a political base.

      Realize this, that the expression here was not to likeminded people. It was for the world to see. Remember in Redding when the Sikh temple was vandalized? What Christian church showed outrage? Here in my town, people were calling Muslims terrorists because after 10 years a mosque was finally going to be built. It made the NYT. We have both an image problem and lack of a good track record. So, we should cry foul less and extend love more, as It is easy to hide behind our numbers.

  49. Sorry, Rich, not sure I agree with you. I just think people are making a much bigger deal of this than it should be. If any other religion had expressed their beliefs to a group of like-minded individuals, I don’t think they would be getting the attention that this whole thing is. I ask myself, what would Jesus do if he was in Dan Cathy’s place. Food for though.

    1. Janis, I think Christians are losing from this, and it is a big deal–world record sales, and people lining up after a politician mobilized them. We need a surrogated way to express our faith and keep being duped into a social and political war when we should be known more for that than being simply a political base.

      Realize this, that the expression here was not to likeminded people. It was for the world to see. Remember in Redding when the Sikh temple was vandalized? What Christian church showed outrage? Here in my town, people were calling Muslims terrorists because after 10 years a mosque was finally going to be built. It made the NYT. We have both an image problem and lack of a good track record. So, we should cry foul less and extend love more, as It is easy to hide behind our numbers.

  50. Sorry, Rich, not sure I agree with you. I just think people are making a much bigger deal of this than it should be. If any other religion had expressed their beliefs to a group of like-minded individuals, I don’t think they would be getting the attention that this whole thing is. I ask myself, what would Jesus do if he was in Dan Cathy’s place. Food for though.

    1. Janis, I think Christians are losing from this, and it is a big deal–world record sales, and people lining up after a politician mobilized them. We need a surrogated way to express our faith and keep being duped into a social and political war when we should be known more for that than being simply a political base.

      Realize this, that the expression here was not to likeminded people. It was for the world to see. Remember in Redding when the Sikh temple was vandalized? What Christian church showed outrage? Here in my town, people were calling Muslims terrorists because after 10 years a mosque was finally going to be built. It made the NYT. We have both an image problem and lack of a good track record. So, we should cry foul less and extend love more, as It is easy to hide behind our numbers.

  51. Most of the founding fathers were Deists not Christians….

  52. Most of the founding fathers were Deists not Christians….

  53. Most of the founding fathers were Deists not Christians….

  54. Most of the founding fathers were Deists not Christians….

  55. Most of the founding fathers were Deists not Christians….

  56. Actually, it’s not just a “Christiain” thing, it’s turning into a “free speech” debate as well. I guess I’m just tired of Christians debating and not DOING.

    1. Yep. Read my first paragraph regarding speech and liberty.
      However, I like how one writer reminded us that the church failed because once again we put issues above people.

  57. Actually, it’s not just a “Christiain” thing, it’s turning into a “free speech” debate as well. I guess I’m just tired of Christians debating and not DOING.

    1. Yep. Read my first paragraph regarding speech and liberty.
      However, I like how one writer reminded us that the church failed because once again we put issues above people.

  58. Actually, it’s not just a “Christiain” thing, it’s turning into a “free speech” debate as well. I guess I’m just tired of Christians debating and not DOING.

    1. Yep. Read my first paragraph regarding speech and liberty.
      However, I like how one writer reminded us that the church failed because once again we put issues above people.

  59. Actually, it’s not just a “Christiain” thing, it’s turning into a “free speech” debate as well. I guess I’m just tired of Christians debating and not DOING.

    1. Yep. Read my first paragraph regarding speech and liberty.
      However, I like how one writer reminded us that the church failed because once again we put issues above people.

  60. Actually, it’s not just a “Christiain” thing, it’s turning into a “free speech” debate as well. I guess I’m just tired of Christians debating and not DOING.

    1. Yep. Read my first paragraph regarding speech and liberty.
      However, I like how one writer reminded us that the church failed because once again we put issues above people.

  61. First of all, Dan Cathy didn’t speak AGAINST gay marriage in the most recent interview, he merely made a stand FOR traditional marriage. That is his right as an American, and his call as a Christian. Jesus openly confronted sin and hypocrisy during His life on earth. We can be compassionate and still not compromise what the bible clearly teaches about a particular issue just because it might offend someone. Mike Huckabee has a right to defend whatever he chooses to. He did nothing wrong. Millions of people came out in support of Dan Cathy’s right to express what he believes. It’s the other side of the issue that displayed all of the hatred and anger!

    1. Thanks for your comment. But, you need to read the first paragraph.
      The point is one of faith. We cannot put political action as legitimate expression of faith. Therefore, buying a chicken sandwich does not make us a better Christian. Loving people comes before our entitlement.
      Rich Kirkpatrick

  62. First of all, Dan Cathy didn’t speak AGAINST gay marriage in the most recent interview, he merely made a stand FOR traditional marriage. That is his right as an American, and his call as a Christian. Jesus openly confronted sin and hypocrisy during His life on earth. We can be compassionate and still not compromise what the bible clearly teaches about a particular issue just because it might offend someone. Mike Huckabee has a right to defend whatever he chooses to. He did nothing wrong. Millions of people came out in support of Dan Cathy’s right to express what he believes. It’s the other side of the issue that displayed all of the hatred and anger!

    1. Thanks for your comment. But, you need to read the first paragraph.
      The point is one of faith. We cannot put political action as legitimate expression of faith. Therefore, buying a chicken sandwich does not make us a better Christian. Loving people comes before our entitlement.
      Rich Kirkpatrick

  63. First of all, Dan Cathy didn’t speak AGAINST gay marriage in the most recent interview, he merely made a stand FOR traditional marriage. That is his right as an American, and his call as a Christian. Jesus openly confronted sin and hypocrisy during His life on earth. We can be compassionate and still not compromise what the bible clearly teaches about a particular issue just because it might offend someone. Mike Huckabee has a right to defend whatever he chooses to. He did nothing wrong. Millions of people came out in support of Dan Cathy’s right to express what he believes. It’s the other side of the issue that displayed all of the hatred and anger!

    1. Thanks for your comment. But, you need to read the first paragraph.
      The point is one of faith. We cannot put political action as legitimate expression of faith. Therefore, buying a chicken sandwich does not make us a better Christian. Loving people comes before our entitlement.
      Rich Kirkpatrick

  64. First of all, Dan Cathy didn’t speak AGAINST gay marriage in the most recent interview, he merely made a stand FOR traditional marriage. That is his right as an American, and his call as a Christian. Jesus openly confronted sin and hypocrisy during His life on earth. We can be compassionate and still not compromise what the bible clearly teaches about a particular issue just because it might offend someone. Mike Huckabee has a right to defend whatever he chooses to. He did nothing wrong. Millions of people came out in support of Dan Cathy’s right to express what he believes. It’s the other side of the issue that displayed all of the hatred and anger!

    1. Thanks for your comment. But, you need to read the first paragraph.
      The point is one of faith. We cannot put political action as legitimate expression of faith. Therefore, buying a chicken sandwich does not make us a better Christian. Loving people comes before our entitlement.
      Rich Kirkpatrick

  65. First of all, Dan Cathy didn’t speak AGAINST gay marriage in the most recent interview, he merely made a stand FOR traditional marriage. That is his right as an American, and his call as a Christian. Jesus openly confronted sin and hypocrisy during His life on earth. We can be compassionate and still not compromise what the bible clearly teaches about a particular issue just because it might offend someone. Mike Huckabee has a right to defend whatever he chooses to. He did nothing wrong. Millions of people came out in support of Dan Cathy’s right to express what he believes. It’s the other side of the issue that displayed all of the hatred and anger!

    1. Thanks for your comment. But, you need to read the first paragraph.
      The point is one of faith. We cannot put political action as legitimate expression of faith. Therefore, buying a chicken sandwich does not make us a better Christian. Loving people comes before our entitlement.
      Rich Kirkpatrick

  66. If the chicken is highly nutritious. you would become a better christian. duh…. 🙂

  67. If the chicken is highly nutritious. you would become a better christian. duh…. 🙂

  68. If the chicken is highly nutritious. you would become a better christian. duh…. 🙂

  69. If the chicken is highly nutritious. you would become a better christian. duh…. 🙂

  70. If the chicken is highly nutritious. you would become a better christian. duh…. 🙂

  71. Rich, I know this article is getting dated at this point (the debate certainly is), but I just wanted to say something that I rarely see addressed.
    A larger view of this BIRD (10 points to Griffendor) could be christians making a stand for “maintaining a christian country,” as some say. I think it’s important to note that the 1st Century christians were flabbergasted when they learned the Messiah had not come to overthrow the Roman Empire and usher in an earthly reign. I see history repeating itself here.
    Somewhere along the way from 1776 until now, christians have decided that this is in fact God’s country and tend to occasionally hint that the U.S. and God’s Kingdom are one in the same. This notion was completely slammed by Paul in the New Testament letters, and I think we are in grave error when we do this.

    This country will fall. They all have/will over time. That is simply the way of it. God’s Kingdom is not an earthly one, and I think we make a mistake fighting for keeping christianity in a earthly government. We certainly want to make a stand for God’s morals in society, but sayings like, “Take God out of government and this country will fail,” seem absolutely ludicrous to me. Trying to force a country to stay/be “christian” is a great way to start political Crusades. I think a lot of our differences could be solved by an effort at changing our understanding of God’s Kingdom into being one of hearts transformed by Jesus, rather than a country or a building.

  72. Rich, I know this article is getting dated at this point (the debate certainly is), but I just wanted to say something that I rarely see addressed.
    A larger view of this BIRD (10 points to Griffendor) could be christians making a stand for “maintaining a christian country,” as some say. I think it’s important to note that the 1st Century christians were flabbergasted when they learned the Messiah had not come to overthrow the Roman Empire and usher in an earthly reign. I see history repeating itself here.
    Somewhere along the way from 1776 until now, christians have decided that this is in fact God’s country and tend to occasionally hint that the U.S. and God’s Kingdom are one in the same. This notion was completely slammed by Paul in the New Testament letters, and I think we are in grave error when we do this.
    This country will fall. They all have/will over time. That is simply the way of it. God’s Kingdom is not an earthly one, and I think we make a mistake fighting for keeping christianity in a earthly government. We certainly want to make a stand for God’s morals in society, but sayings like, “Take God out of government and this country will fail,” seem absolutely ludicrous to me. Trying to force a country to stay/be “christian” is a great way to start political Crusades. I think a lot of our differences could be solved by an effort at changing our understanding of God’s Kingdom into being one of hearts transformed by Jesus, rather than a country or a building.

  73. Rich, I know this article is getting dated at this point (the debate certainly is), but I just wanted to say something that I rarely see addressed.
    A larger view of this BIRD (10 points to Griffendor) could be christians making a stand for “maintaining a christian country,” as some say. I think it’s important to note that the 1st Century christians were flabbergasted when they learned the Messiah had not come to overthrow the Roman Empire and usher in an earthly reign. I see history repeating itself here.
    Somewhere along the way from 1776 until now, christians have decided that this is in fact God’s country and tend to occasionally hint that the U.S. and God’s Kingdom are one in the same. This notion was completely slammed by Paul in the New Testament letters, and I think we are in grave error when we do this.

    This country will fall. They all have/will over time. That is simply the way of it. God’s Kingdom is not an earthly one, and I think we make a mistake fighting for keeping christianity in a earthly government. We certainly want to make a stand for God’s morals in society, but sayings like, “Take God out of government and this country will fail,” seem absolutely ludicrous to me. Trying to force a country to stay/be “christian” is a great way to start political Crusades. I think a lot of our differences could be solved by an effort at changing our understanding of God’s Kingdom into being one of hearts transformed by Jesus, rather than a country or a building.

  74. Rich, I know this article is getting dated at this point (the debate certainly is), but I just wanted to say something that I rarely see addressed.
    A larger view of this BIRD (10 points to Griffendor) could be christians making a stand for “maintaining a christian country,” as some say. I think it’s important to note that the 1st Century christians were flabbergasted when they learned the Messiah had not come to overthrow the Roman Empire and usher in an earthly reign. I see history repeating itself here.
    Somewhere along the way from 1776 until now, christians have decided that this is in fact God’s country and tend to occasionally hint that the U.S. and God’s Kingdom are one in the same. This notion was completely slammed by Paul in the New Testament letters, and I think we are in grave error when we do this.

    This country will fall. They all have/will over time. That is simply the way of it. God’s Kingdom is not an earthly one, and I think we make a mistake fighting for keeping christianity in a earthly government. We certainly want to make a stand for God’s morals in society, but sayings like, “Take God out of government and this country will fail,” seem absolutely ludicrous to me. Trying to force a country to stay/be “christian” is a great way to start political Crusades. I think a lot of our differences could be solved by an effort at changing our understanding of God’s Kingdom into being one of hearts transformed by Jesus, rather than a country or a building.

  75. Rich, I know this article is getting dated at this point (the debate certainly is), but I just wanted to say something that I rarely see addressed.
    A larger view of this BIRD (10 points to Griffendor) could be christians making a stand for “maintaining a christian country,” as some say. I think it’s important to note that the 1st Century christians were flabbergasted when they learned the Messiah had not come to overthrow the Roman Empire and usher in an earthly reign. I see history repeating itself here.
    Somewhere along the way from 1776 until now, christians have decided that this is in fact God’s country and tend to occasionally hint that the U.S. and God’s Kingdom are one in the same. This notion was completely slammed by Paul in the New Testament letters, and I think we are in grave error when we do this.

    This country will fall. They all have/will over time. That is simply the way of it. God’s Kingdom is not an earthly one, and I think we make a mistake fighting for keeping christianity in a earthly government. We certainly want to make a stand for God’s morals in society, but sayings like, “Take God out of government and this country will fail,” seem absolutely ludicrous to me. Trying to force a country to stay/be “christian” is a great way to start political Crusades. I think a lot of our differences could be solved by an effort at changing our understanding of God’s Kingdom into being one of hearts transformed by Jesus, rather than a country or a building.

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